Hear Some Music I've Enjoyed...Randomly Selected for You
Dual OPL Music: FMAVEN20.A2M - YouTube
Pola Rise & Andy Ward - We Are Done | Youtube
中田ヤスタカ(capsule)密着取材 - YouTube Favorite part starts at 9:50
Clio - Eyes | Youtube I love that chorus.
Dual OPL Music: FMAVEN20.A2M - YouTube
Pola Rise & Andy Ward - We Are Done | Youtube
中田ヤスタカ(capsule)密着取材 - YouTube Favorite part starts at 9:50
Clio - Eyes | Youtube I love that chorus.
Trey writes,
Can you give some examples of ENFP guys on Youtube?
Sure! You ready to have some fun??? Haha.
Liam Thompson, Funny New Zealander (Carson family favorite)
Perifractic from Retro Recipes, Retro-computing Expert
Scooby1961, Epic Gay Engineer & Bodybuilder
Steven Lim, Worth It Guy
Dr. John Dehlin, Excommunicated Mormon, and Popular Critic of the Mormon Church
(Warning: Deep, sometimes dark, Fi stuff. John sings a very effective counter-hymnal to the ISTJ-leaning Mormon leadership)
Jesse Kimmerling, Adventurist-Traveler
Brandon Farris, Funny Things-Tryer
Phew! That should hold you for now Trey ;-)
(…OK fine, she is in a favorite band called “Men I Trust,” so here’s an ENFP female, Emmanuelle Proulx, for the heck of it.)
Sarah writes,
I’m an INTJ and I have an INTJ daughter. I love her but we’ve had some disagreements lately. I hate to say it but I lectured her a bit and I know she has heard it all before. What can I do to support her?
Man, I feel like I’ve been on both sides of this kind of question being a parent myself. That’s not fun at all, feeling uncool or ineffective as a parent.
Some things I would do pretty soon:
Things I would never, ever avoid, that a lot of INTJ parents would try to avoid:
Things I would do long-term:
Finally:
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Systems thinking is something a lot of INTJs really like to chew on. We think in systems, so it’s simple, and our ego is all tied up in it, so we feel there’s never enough of it in the world.
Does a problem exist in our life? If so, “might as well do more systems thinking,” comes the call from within.
(And I mean, systems thinking feels really smart and powerful to us because we have a psychological stake in it, but sometimes I have to think it’s a pretty stubborn, grumpy, way-too-adult-like process, too…)
Sometimes we get caught with our system-thinker pants down though. We can end up so zoomed-out that we have one big, vague, “meta-meta-meta-system”, while what we really need is more like a “sub-system.” Something that’s simple, well-defined, and easy to work with.
A Helpful System of My Own
There are lots of different kinds of systems. This is, I think, an under-appreciated aspect of systems thinking. When you think of everything as a system, or as part of a system, it’s easy to start to blur the lines, but delineation can be really helpful in preventing us from losing leverage over the details.
One type of system I like designing is a personal daily support system. One of my favorite daily support sub-systems lately is something I call “Weeklies.” It’s a set of tips, practices, or principles that I change up or reevaluate about once a week, and make little changes to every couple of days.
The name probably sounds way too obvious, and you know I’m not here to be the guy who pats you on the head and lets you go on happily thinking you know everything already. So here are some specific principles of its design:
I typically refer to the Weeklies list a few times a day. This keeps me in touch with the big picture. In my journaling text editor, I type “wk” and press TAB and this injects my list of Weeklies from a text file.
Here are some items on this week’s list:
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Scooter Braun was in the news today, and I thought, “this story is giving me that vibe,” and after some research I’m adding Scooter Braun to my likely-INTJ list.
A couple of video references:
This person may not seem like you, if you’re an INTJ. Scooter does seem more like the a Se-heavy INTJ, like an INTJ-T. They are easy to confuse with ESFPs or ENTJs. Some of the items that resonated:
I have coached more than a few clients who are similar. They face, more than many INTJs, that really difficult combination of “I’m a major introvert” and “I’m also a major extrovert in these other ways.”
(I have a DJ friend, also an INTJ, who looks like Scooter. Kinda funny when that happens. There are a LOT of INTJs working in arts & entertainment)
INTJs in this position also have to be careful with community. Heck, all of us INTJs do. But this kind of person seems more likely to get tripped up on the Fi-Fe divide and unwittingly turn themselves into a villain (public POV) and scapegoat / misunderstood victim (subjective POV).
It’s really unfortunate because some planning here and there can help—but it’s the wanna factor. You have to want to connect with the community and build good will, and this has never been an easy sell to INTJs with other plans on their mind. Plus, one has to admit that being the misunderstood person in the shadows—being the villain, even—gives a lot of energy leverage. Mostly of the “I’ll show them” variety, but still, it feels kinda fundamentally great to perceive oneself as deeply misunderstood. It’s a meaty feeling, and offers some scary lows to balance out the scary highs.
I’d guess his wife, Yael Cohen Braun, is ISxJ. I see an interesting visual similarity between examples like:
Neuropathetic writes:
Thanks for the book recommendation on your blog. I bought Dario’s book. What else have you been reading?
You’re welcome! Lately I’ve been working on:
…none of which are coaching or self-coaching related, but I’m drawing heavily on metaphor so it all counts toward growth. ;-)
And they’re all good so far!
Via Laura London / Speaking of Jung:
“I always think of the #shadow as, certainly the pieces that are repressed, but also have been ignored.” ~Susan Schwartz, Ph.D., Jungian analyst, Speaking of Jung, Ep. 40
“The #shadow is not just a darkness in the sense of negative but a darkness in the sense of not used—qualities that want to be paid attention to but have gotten submerged, lost. And they need a certain strength to be able to come forward.” ~Susan Schwartz, Ph.D., Jungian analyst
This is really worth knowing, and I wanted to share one way in which this is relevant to INTJs.
In my experience this “unused-ignored shadow” effect is really common with extraverted intuition (Ne) in INTJs. It’s not that we hate(s) it. It’s not that we dislike its use. It’s just that it’s not as interesting as our favorite function, Ni. Not by a long shot!
As a result, Ne is displaced and really not developed much, creating a blind spot.
Here are the typical results of that blind spot:
Here are some less-typical, but really bad results of ignoring Ne:
Some potentially huge opportunities from paying attention to Ne:
Some risks of giving way too much attention to Ne:
I don’t think I’ve ever met an INTJ who really struggled with those issues though, because we love our introverted functions so much.
Methods that I like for stimulating the extraverted intuition:
After I started working on the development of Ne in my life, I did notice some new-to-me pushback effects like these:
This is just small stuff, though. the trade-off has been worth it.
Anyway! All this from reading a quote this morning…I love that effect. The shadow is a fascinating topic.
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“The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek.”
— Joseph Campbell
That’s scary stuff.
Caves, the underground.
I remember a time when I got stuck in a cave. Not for very long, but it was damn scary. I was trapped tight, pressed between two huge, clammy, dusty, gritty slabs of rock.
Others had to come along and describe to me how I might move my body, joint by joint, so that I could maneuver out.
That particular cave is permanently closed now, due to another awful entrapment, which makes the memory of my own experience even more creepy.
And when I go into that memory as a metaphor, and imagine the metaphorical cave I fear to enter? The one where I’m that stuck, the one where people far better equipped than myself are now tragically entombed?
Damn scary.
Still, I can’t deny it—those metaphorical caves of my past appear to have been something else. More like the outer levels of a vast treasure network…
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I stumbled across this article today:
A therapist shares the biggest mistake people with low emotional intelligence make
When I ask people what comes to mind when they think about “emotional intelligence,” their answers are often centered around themselves. I hear things things like “knowing my personal competencies,” “being self-aware” or “managing my emotions.”
Funny. A good reminder for real. This is important for the introverted side of just about anybody, introvert or extrovert, because our introverted functions are so subjective. They have this incredible way of taking a thing and making it “about me”.
This is a good note for the INTJ squad too, because someone could say “feelings” and we might even immediately think, “oh yeah! I love feelings!” but really it’s a mismatch because we’re often thinking, “oh yeah! I love (my) feelings.”
In this way our Fi can sometimes help us appear as if we don’t care about others, even though we’re sharing “emotions and feelings,” and even though we’re trying to be helpful and put ourselves in our place, maybe because we read a didactic intent into the exercise (see below on that one).
It’s not about us. That’s hard to really grasp sometimes, because we want to help using our set of known tools, and even just thinking about helping moves us back into the “me” zone, where we start to collect energy from our favorite intervention or creativity tools.
But it’s also more like we are naturally good at giving attention to Fi, not Fe so much. It’s not that we are morally wrong, as we may assume people think. It’s that we can get stuck “we-ing” and “me-ing,” and not “they-ing”.
The most emotionally intelligent people know that in addition to understanding their own emotions, it’s important to perceive the emotions of others, and the way that their environment impacts those emotions.
Personality type can really help here, by giving us questions to ask, curiosities to indulge,
(…and experiments to run?? Never!)
Welcome to Soviet Prison
There is also another important thing here: We INTJs sometimes fear that others are putting us into our place when they talk about EQ at work. Or when they seem to be headed to the preachy zone, maybe it drives us crazy. We go into 1984 mode and start to feel like some dictator is about to enthrone themselves and make our lives hell.
However, part of this perception comes down to who we are. Our own INTJ Fi can be really, really judgy. It tends to write covert contracts on demand, within seconds. And it’s easy to project our own embarrassing, subjective moral-judgment tendencies onto others, even if they are on a completely different track. For this reason it’s important to be objective, ask questions, and give these interactions time to settle.
In any case, even if there was some dictator-enthroning going on, it would still be important to get out of the “me” box ASAP and start building outward-facing relationships.
But why save that until disaster strikes?
Oh, and a Funny Thing About Others’ Stuff
Unlike your stuff, it’s pretty common that relatively shallow attention needs to be paid to others’ stuff. That is—it can take a lot of attention, but in a broad, low-touch way. A frequent way. Listening, empathizing, helping things move along, but at the other person’s speed.
People like owning their stuff. Quite often they want to do the deep part themselves. So it’s not like everyone out there is looking for an analyst, and your Fe-based approach has to be as deep as your personal, Fi-based approach. That could in fact be a real energy trap.
And one cool part of this: When other people are looking for help, even if (or especially if) there are conflicting values in play within a group, Ti can really come in handy. And it can be really awesome for INTJs to get exposure to this perspective. It opens up the “designer” role even more, to an already creative mind.
Filed in: People /74/ | Relationships /78/ | Feeling /64/
Hey everybody, I wanted to say a quick Thank You for your kind emails and donations lately. It really helps to read them all and I look forward to getting to know more of you.
Lately I’ve been starting a few different projects:
It’s been fun, but on top of other work stuff, it’s been slow going, so sorry if I haven’t written back to you yet.
Another Thing
Sometimes, when I blog about a well-known person who is an INTJ, I get emails from their supporters. A lot of these emailers make the assumption that I’m on their side. (Like, who wouldn’t be, if they were smart, is their attitude.)
This morning I got an email from a fan of one of those INTJs that was frankly a bit disturbing. It made me feel bad for the well-known INTJ in question—they are in trouble, whether they think so or not, and it’s hard to watch.
Unfortunately, sometimes we INTJs, whether unknown or famous around the world, can get caught up in positions and perspectives that I would say are worth questioning:
This stuff can just happen. I mean, I personally remember all of this happening to some degree in my own past. So I’m probably not above any of it, but I try to be aware of it.
Anyway, just a reminder to self, and to those who may be interested, that the opposites are always worth the pursuit:
This kind of work usually requires inventing models and systems that never existed before. But that’s what INTJs and other intuitive-minded folks are really good at. We can grapple with a thing that can’t be seen, heard, felt, tasted, and has no smell to speak of. We can take an idea and help turn it into a really awesome reality.
I hope we can all do, or keep doing, more of that.
Anyway—I don’t mean this post in a harsh way, just tossing some seeds into the winds and hoping more of it takes root. Take care everybody —Marc
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Earlier this year I wrote a bit about the nootropics that work for me. Here’s an update:
Cacao is my newest experiment. I could tell my body wanted more chocolate, which is funny but also that’s how I legitimately felt. Intuitively, I wondered if it had something to do with the health benefits of Cacao:
Well, IDK about some of that stuff. But I swallowed a teaspoon’s worth as soon as the bag arrived in the mail (cough cough, dumb move, now it’s all over my keyboard, mouse, shirt, pants) and within 15 minutes I was sailing. It was crazy. I had the music turned up and I felt really good. At the end of a long work day this was pretty nice, compared to the usual alternative.
So apparently what I’ve been missing by eating normal chocolate is a much more direct dose of the cacao.
I’ve also noticed that in the mornings, it helps me get a jump start on the day in the same way the caffeine does, but with less of a direct hit.
Since mint also seems to help, I’ve been making mint-cacao tea. It sounded pretty fancy until I drank it, and realized it tasted like watered-down hot cocoa. But there are basically zero calories in it, and it still tastes OK, so I’m cool with my watery mint-cacao tea. It’s nice to have alternative drinks when you’re on a cut or on a diet, too.
I already noticed the headaches one can get from this (do you get the headaches?) so there’s obviously a limit to how much of the cacao I’m going to consume, and so far it’s looking like somewhere between 1-3 teaspoons a day. They’re not bad headaches though. More like “OK, no more cacao” headaches.
L-Theanine continues to work well for me. It seems to help to combine it with caffeine (2:1 ratio, e.g. 200mg LT to 100mg caffeine) for a really nice “back to work” effect, especially after a nap. I take more L-Theanine on the weekends, maybe for J-in-a-P-situation reasons.
Melatonin is still working well too. I’m going to try it for relaxation in addition to sleepy times, just to see if it helps.
Turmeric still helps me cut down on aches or a weird head-feeling or inflammation-feeling after a bad night’s sleep, for example. It works really well for me. I’ve always loved curry so again, maybe it’s some kind of body-messaging.
I bought some Kava Kava (Piper methysticum) and have noticed a relaxing effect. However it seems similar to L-Theanine. I’m not sure I’d buy it again…we’ll see.
I stopped taking PhosphatidylSerine because I didn’t feel like it had a pronounced effect. But then I started to get this “I liked taking that” thought. Something’s bugging me—maybe it did have some kind of add-on effect with the L-Theanine and caffeine. I’ll have a think about that one, maybe try it once more.
I’ve had no noticeable result as I’ve finished off the last of my Gingko and Ginseng. I upped the dosage and still, nothing except a few isolated outbreaks of energy which could have been due to anything. I may try a different brand in the future.
Gingko seems to be my all-time “no effect whatsoever compared to what I hear from other people” nootropic, and I first tried it over 20 years ago with the same disappointing results. But I can accept that people are different and some stuff that works for you might not work for me, and vice-versa.
Finally, I gotta say that caffeine is still awesome. It really activates my Ne / extraverted intuition. If I take it before a walk, I can come up with some really fun ideas. After a nap, it puts me in the mood to try fun new things, like watching a new movie or playing a game I like. The general mood boost is really helpful too.
So, that’s all of that for now. It’s frigging amazing how many different nootropics there are. And sometimes, as in the case of cacao, you find out there’s this “food” that can be thought of as a nootropic. So there must be thousands of these supplements out there. Again, I think “nootropic” is a bit of a broken mental model, or a topic in search of new models. But it’s been really fascinating to try this stuff out.
Which nootropics are you taking, if any? I’d love to hear about your experiences—email’s in the sidebar.
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